A discussion between right-wing figure Joe Kent and left-leaning hosts about whether the two sides can agree on immigration, framed as a hopeful but uncertain search for middle ground.

• Both sides say Trump won in 2024 partly because voters across the spectrum wanted tighter borders, not the more open approach under Biden.
• The shared argument: open borders mainly help big corporations cut labor costs by bringing in cheaper workers, hurting American workers.
• H-1B visas and illegal hiring are named as ways companies undercut U.S. wages, an idea echoing points Bernie Sanders has long made.
• The catch: any deal with the left would have to drop hardline positions on race, gender, and identity to get their support.
• Both sides admit they don't have the answers yet and would need long, difficult talks to find where the real red lines are.

Outlook: No concrete policy is on the table, but there's appetite on both sides to sit down and try to hammer out a shared immigration stance.